My guests today are a lovely and amazingly talented pair of artists named Kelly Leslie and Craig Cully. Kelly is a designer, a teacher, and a lover of collaboration. Whether it’s problem solving with her clients, discovering something new with her students, or creating a series of fascinating paintings with her husband Craig, Kelly tells me that collaboration is the practice of being human. Craig is a painter, a teacher, and a backyard pizza-oven aficionado. His work has been featured in exhibitions throughout the United States and found home in several permanent collections. My conversation with Kelly and Craig went all over the place, and I loved every second of it. They were warm, welcoming, and eager to engage my every silly whim. I truly enjoyed this conversation and I hope you enjoy it as well.
In our conversation, we discussed the reality that everyone is creative, creativity stems from creation, discovery leads to more discovery, “Is that a dog?”, the universe was whole – one with its Maker – just like us, we are the universe, separateness is an illusion, looking in a mirror and recognizing we cannot experience our whole body, your mother is not THE source, the third hand, collaboration as a practice of being human, art can do a lot of things, experiences that are purely human, cannot transcend with design, design asks what it mean to be human in this place, art is anything done to the highest degree, anything done to the extremes, conservatism and a small voice about change, houses as places of beauty vs cultural compliance, art pushes the envelope, algorithms sealing our bubbles, we can’t start over but algorithms can’t be altruistic, aliens aren’t coming to this planet we’re alone, Artificial Intelligence, General Artificial Intelligence, Modest Mouse, AI and art, AI applying to art school, music as patterns, musical as a physical experience, intangibility, social media, algorithms, human intelligence, new music, once the AI is in charge we’ll think it’s righteous, maybe we do need to drop acid, we’ve never imagined something without an analogous form on earth, and how we simply cannot get out of our own way in this silly closed systems.
Guest Name: Kelly Leslie
Guest Name: Craig Cully
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